Uncovering Emotional Blocks with Anat Peri

Anat: [00:00:00] So our emotions are energy in motion. And if you don’t allow yourself to fully be with that emotion, feel that emotion, then you’re not allowing that energy to move and that energy gets stuck. And so the first thing is how people relate to their emotions. 

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I am talking today to Anat Perry. She is the founder of training camp for the soul, and she’s a transformational life coach. And today. We are talking about emotional blocks, how you can uncover them, how you can overcome them, and all the things that kind of come with self sabotage and our fear of failure and all these beliefs that we have in ourselves that hold us back from doing what we truly want into living a life of fulfillment and success.

She is going to basically take you through a therapy session. It’s pretty awesome. So I hope you all get a lot out of this episode. Y’all enjoy. All right, guys, we are going to hop right in. I have on today Anat Perry. She is the founder of training camp for the soul. She’s a transformational life coach and she specializes in developing your client’s emotional resiliency.

And we are going to talk about all of that and how we can all take inspired action. So thanks so much for coming on today Anat. 

Anat: Yeah, thanks. So for having me on here! 

Hope: For sure. So as a transformational life [00:02:00] coach, what are you working with clients the most on? 

Anat: Unlearning, unlearning, unlearning, so uncovering what they learned in the early years.

You have young kids, so you’ll, you’ll appreciate this prior to the age of seven. What did they learn? Cause it’s in those years that the script is formed. So to speak the script of your life, you just said it before we got on this, how your infant or not your infant, but your toddler just keeps repeating everything that everyone says.

That’s what happens. So we don’t even realize how much of who we are and how we’re operating today. isn’t really who we are. It’s who we learned to be by what we saw, what we heard, and what we felt energetically from our caretakers. So for most people that is mom and dad. 

Hope: So how do you get to the root of that?

So, so you’re saying unlearning. [00:03:00] So how do you get to, first of all, I guess that’s a multifaceted question. If you’re unlearning, I guess the first thing is you have to realize what you’re unlearning. So how do you uncover the things that you need to unlearn? 

Anat: Yeah, yeah. So there’s five stages of healing or five stages of transformation.

And stage one is awareness. And this is I think what leads people a lot of times to do a program, hire a coach, read a book, go to a seminar. It’s becoming aware of something that they want to quote unquote fix or change. And so it’s a good starting point. And then there, and really what myself and my team help our clients do is.

Let’s go to your garden and let’s uncover all the weeds. And so we specifically will look at the different areas of development and the areas that if you are functioning well, if you’ve got the right learning, [00:04:00] then You’re functioning well as an adult. And when I give you these areas, you’ll be like, Oh, yeah, of course.

So we look at and you can see these as like subjects, right? Like these are the subjects that mom and dad were responsible for teaching you. So self esteem, expressing your needs and wants with others, knowing how to give yourself what you need and want, limits and boundaries with yourself and others, Connection.

So your ability to connect to your own self as well as how to connect with the world and others and then responsibility. And so you could see these as like all the different little pockets and areas of a garden and it’s like, all right, let’s tackle one at a time and start to look at what did you learn in this area?

So. We have different visualizations and questions and ways to bring you back to observing your life as if it was a movie. So, it’s like, let’s rewind the movie, Hope, and look [00:05:00] at, so if we were watching your mom, was she the type of mom that was always go, go, go, busy, busy, running around, cleaning the house, taking care of this, running all this stuff, and then, Finally, like, you know, exhausted, or was she the mom that never got off the couch and was dealing with depression all the time, or was she the mom that was always exercising and running a business and all that?

So it’s like all these ways to look and observe whatever kind of mother or father you have start to bring up the beliefs. For example, if mom was always busy, busy running around, taking care of the kids, the house, everything, how that imprinted the child might’ve been always keep busy or put others first, you know, your needs don’t matter.

And, uh, I’ll also throw this in and say, there’s a different relationship as to what you learned from mom compared to dad, [00:06:00] even though They may do the exact same thing or say the exact same thing. 

Hope: That’s interesting. 

Anat: So, mom is the role model for the self. A child looks at mom as, mom is me, I am mom, not separate.

You’re a mother, so you can get this, right? Where did this come from? Why is this the way that it is? Well, baby was in you for nine months, in your energy, and then, you know, birth happens, and you hold your little one for the first time, and you say, I’m your mommy. And the child hears, wah, wah, wah, wah, and doesn’t know.

What he or she’s looking at or what, you know, can’t understand what you’re saying, but what they do know, what is familiar is the energy and the energy feels like home. It feels like the same energy I was just in for nine months. So, in that moment, [00:07:00] there’s this, I am, oh, I am mom, mom, this is just me. Mom is an extension of me, which is why in those early years, you have an infant.

Who are they inseparable from? Who do they want? Mom. 

Because you are their foundation. You are their safety until they start to develop more and realize, oh, I am separate. I am my own self. And then father, so dad walks into the, to the labor room, holds baby for the first time says, son, daughter, I’m your daddy.

And the baby here is, but I imagine at least the very first time that the father held a child that he was on, like, oozing ecstasy times a million, like so much love, a lot of pride. You know, for men, as much as they see you pregnant and they feel that there’s like a kick here and there, it doesn’t [00:08:00] really become real for them until the second they hold that baby.

And then they’re like, I like there’s a level, you know, it just is like that, right? 

Hope: Yes. 

Anat: And part of their like oozing of love is the pride is like the, Oh my God, wow. Like, and so. The baby feels this energy and it’s at a very high vibration of love, and not to say mom’s energy isn’t loving, but mom’s energy of love has been cultivated for nine months.

It feels different than this like blast of like, oh my god. And so, For the child, it’s like, whoa, what is this energy? I’ve never felt this before. This is not me, but this feels great. So this, like, this is everything that’s not me. So in that moment, the relationship that gets formed is dad is my world. That is everything that is [00:09:00] not me and that is, represents love because, and I don’t know about you, but I always held my daddy on a pedestal.

Hope: Yeah. 

Anat: Yes. Yeah. That is why there’s this, like, we are always trying to get back to that level of pure high love. 

Hope: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Anat: And either, either our fathers live up to it. Or they break our heart. And so father represents the heart. Mother represents the womb, the root, the nurture, the safety, all that.

Father represents the world. So you’re probably not there yet. Your kids are still young. But when they start to get to like the age of six, seven, eight, they’re going to be like, mom, leave me alone. You’re drawn to dad. Yeah. And so for the mother’s listening, I know it’s going to be a little heartbreaking, but you just got to trust [00:10:00] that it’s innately what they need now is to learn from the world.

About how to be with others in the world and if you’re fortunate enough that you know that the father’s in the picture and the father has time to to really devote to the kids like great do it and they continue to look at you as the role model for what’s possible for themselves. Yeah. So that’s, that’s how it forms.

And I’ve been doing this work, facilitating this work for five and a half years with hundreds of clients. And it is accurate. 

Hope: Yeah. 

Anat: You can tell me they’re challenged with something with themselves like, Oh, I’m always like hard on myself. And I’ll be like, so is mom hard on you or hard on herself? Yeah.

How’d you know that? I’m like, that’s how I learned it. Or they’ll say, you [00:11:00] know, I just. I don’t trust others to be there for me. They’re just not safe. And I’ll be like, yeah, so dad was not around or he didn’t honor his word. Yeah. Or he was, he was abusive. He was that, like, it wasn’t safe. Yep. So I’ve done it enough to see accuracy.

Hope: Yeah. Yeah. So when you’re going back and looking and you’re helping people kind of uncover those that started, you know, in those early years of life, what do you find is one of the most common themes? Like is, are there more ones that are more common than others that people have to kind of bring forth? 

Anat: Hmm. It’s a great question.

There’s so many. 

Hope: Yeah, I’m sure. 

Anat: Oh, so many, you know, it, it, it really depends. But I’d say, you know, common themes because of the society that we’re in and the era that our, you know, our parents grew up in, and depending where you were raised, you know, if you’re raised in, in [00:12:00] the, in the Midwest, then there is a lot of you know, conversation around religion and God and you have to do what God says and you have to be good and all that. Right. Or if you came from a broken home, then there’s going to be a lot around that mom and dad struggled financially. There’s going to be things around that. If both parents were always working, then it’s that.

So there’s There’s a ton. And there’s the things that we’re aware of when we come into it. And then there’s like, I mean, my clients, they experience like popcorn moments of like, Oh my gosh, I didn’t even see that I had that. 

Hope: Yeah. 

Anat: I didn’t even realize how, like, because it becomes so innate, right? It becomes like, well, it’s just normal to, to be a people pleaser and people start to relate to themselves.

As I am a people pleaser. I am a procrastinator. And I’m like, no, you’re not [00:13:00] test this out. I learned to be a people pleaser. And it’s like even just adding that one word in there. Oh, there’s like freedom there. There’s space to experience like a new possibility. 

Hope: Right. Right. It’s not putting those labels on yourself where you feel confined into that bubble of that’s who I am.

That’s yeah, that’s huge. 

Anat: Yeah. So stage one is very important and not to be stopped at. And, uh, you know, my own personal struggles with my journey of transformation was I spent eight years doing the type of self development work. I’ve been in this for 16 years, but the first eight years, it was a lot of cognitive work.

It was a lot of mindset stuff. So I was a master at stage one. I was like, Oh, I’m aware of every single weed in my garden. The challenge was that the [00:14:00] tools that I had to tend to that were only scratching the surface, were only trimming it. And the frustration of a year later, six months later, Five days later being like, there it is again.

I’m still acting this way. And I see that a lot. I have a lot of clients that come to me that are like, this is not my first rodeo. I’ve worked with coaches. I’ve done self development, you know, before, and I’m still struggling with X, Y, and Z. And it’s because what’s missing is getting to the root of it. So what’s the root of it? Okay. 

Hope: Yeah. Cause that kind of leads me to my next questions. That’s what I was going to ask. Cause you kind of get into these loops, right? Where you just, it’s, you’re just doing the same thing over and over and you have those same feelings that keep coming out. So, so what does it look like to really be able to master Those emotions and kind of take control of [00:15:00] letting those feelings and thoughts about yourself come back up. Like, how do you master that? 

Anat: Yeah, perfect. Exactly. And use the right word mastering emotions, right? So our emotions are energy in motion. And if you don’t allow yourself to fully be with that emotion, feel that emotion, then you’re not allowing that energy to move and that energy gets stuck.

And so the first thing is how people relate to their emotions. So there’s what we have labeled as good emotions and the bad emotions. I mean, when you’re happy, do you ever say, why am I happy? Oh no, why am I happy? But when we’re sad or anxious, why am I anxious? Why am I sad? Why am I crying so much?

There’s a judgment there, like it’s wrong. And that’s all what most of us have learned. We’ve learned that there’s something wrong, you know, [00:16:00] why are you crying? What’s wrong? You okay? Instead of like, Oh, you’re crying. Tell me more. Yeah. Feel it. Yep. And so one of the things that I teach, and this is a first takeaway that the listeners can take from this is.

Let’s go below the label. Let’s go one layer deeper than the label. So the label is I am sad, or I’m crying, or I’m angry, or I’m anxious, or I’m horny, or I’m happy. Right? That’s the label for the, for the emotion. But how is the body experiencing that emotion? And where is the body experiencing that sensation?

So the level below emotion is sensation. It’s a sensation. And to me, I’m sure you’ve heard this as well, anxiety, or sorry, yeah, anxiousness, excitement and anxiousness feel very similar in the body. It [00:17:00] feels like butterflies in like your stomach or like heart accelerating, right? If you get on stage and you’re about to do a TED talk, yeah, you can imagine you’re going to feel that.

And so how do you label it? Anxious? Excited? It depends on whatever story and that’s why we want to get below that and start to be with emotions at the level of sensation of felt sense. And so the questions to ask yourself so that you could be with it at that level is, okay, well, Where, so scan your body, take a few breaths, scan your body and say, where am I feeling this the most?

Oh, I’m feeling it in my throat. Yeah. There’s like something stuck in my throat. Okay. So we’ve identified the area. Does it have a size? Is it the size of a grape? Is it the size of a apple? So does it have a size? Does it have a [00:18:00] temperature to it? So what it forces you to do is laser beam focus on this energy and it gets you out of your head of like right, wrong, why, all that, and has you be with that energy.

Does it have a shape? Does it have a texture? Is it hollow? Is it light? Is it heavy? Is it dense? And then once you have an idea of the shape and color and all that, you keep observing it with love and curiosity instead of why am I feeling this, can this just go away instead? And that’s rejecting it. It needs this part of you needs your love and acceptance and curiosity.

So get curious. Is it shifting? Is it changing? As I just observe that sensation and a lot of the times what happens is the body then got [00:19:00] enough focus there that it knows what to do. And this is how brilliant our bodies are. So when you were pregnant, Hope, how much thought did you have to give in order for your little one to develop in your belly?

Hope: Right. 

Anat: Our bodies are brilliant. Right? Or if you cut yourself or burn your finger right now, God forbid, but if you do, what do you feel? Sensation that we label as ouch, right? Pain hurts, but if you were to really ask really, it’s hot, it’s stingy, it’s tingling, and I believe that that is our body’s brilliant way of Knowing when a part of our body needs healing because it’s not the ointment or the Band Aid, right?

It’s going to do the healing, right? It is actually our body and when [00:20:00] there’s something like that The reason that there’s quote unquote pain is to really signal that healing needs to happen here Challenges with our emotions is that we’ve learned to override it. It’s not as painful as a burn And so, there’s become this disconnect where we live in our head, we stuff it down, we numb out with like, oh, let me just go get some ice cream or let me, let me grab my phone and just scroll Instagram instead, and we disconnect from that sensation and thinking, oh, yeah, now I’m better.

No, really, it just, it got stored there. So the opportunity is to start to relate to our emotions as sensations with curiosity and love. And, When you truly, truly are able to give it that focus, it can move [00:21:00] and shift in 90 seconds, or it can start to release itself in 90 seconds. So as a mother, Hope, when your child is upset, If you let them move through that upset, how long is it?

Hope: Not long. Not long. 

Anat: Yeah. Not long. It’s when we question, um, that it prolongs it, but my sister does this with my nephew. When he’s upset, she’ll just stand right there, she’ll put her hand close to his back or on his back. And she’ll say, it’s okay, I’m here. So I’m here to hold this safe space for you. And he’ll have a good cry for about 90 seconds to 2 minutes.

And then he’s like, okay, mommy, I’m good. Let’s go play with the Legos. 

Hope: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Anat: And so let’s remember that that is not only the gift of that a child has, that is the gift of us [00:22:00] as humans. When we remember that our emotions are just a part of the human experience, all the emotions are. Hope, if your children went a whole day without laughing or crying, would you be concerned?

Hope: Totally. 

Anat: Totally. 

Hope: Yeah. 

Anat: But why do we question it as adults? 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: There just needs to be this reconnection to that. Right. And what are the challenges? That makes it a little longer, is that we forgot to, we forgot to feel safe. We forgot to know that our bodies are safe. Whether it’s, you know, something happened, traumatic, and there’s some, you know, trauma there or PTSD there.

Or you’ve just programmed yourself, you’ve learned to disassociate and disconnect a lot. And so a very simple practice that I teach, here’s another tool you [00:23:00] all get to take away, is what I call priming safety. So, you know, if you were to repaint the wall, what would you do first if it was blue and you wanted to turn it to white, you would prime it first.

And so call it priming safety as before you look to reconnect with your body, you prime yourself with it. And so how does one sit when they feel safe? Open, right? How do you sit when you’re scared? When you’re, when you’re in a fight with your partner? 

Hope: Yeah. 

Anat: You’ll like, you know, curl up into a ball to protect.

Hope: Right. 

Anat: Yourself. 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: Someone feels safe, they sit open, chest up, relaxed, gets the wall, palms up, like I’m open to receiving, I’m safe. Right. That’s the body language. So, you want to sit in a way that you feel safe. So, you’re already telling the body, I’m safe. [00:24:00] 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: And how does one breathe when they’re scared?

They either don’t breathe, right? They freeze. Or they breathe really shallow into their chest. How does one breathe when they feel safe? Deep, long inhales in and out of the belly. It’s the same thing. That’s what you want to do with the breath. And then the last part of priming is, well, what do you tell yourself?

A lot of times we’re not aware that we’re creating more fear for ourselves. Like, I can’t, I can’t, oh my god, this is scary, so let’s change the radio station and instead say, I’m safe, I’m safe to feel this, I’m safe to experience this, I’m safe to be in my body, I’m safe, and you just keep repeating it.

Whether you want to do it out loud or in your own head to yourself. So you breathe and you keep repeating that and it’s like a priming meditation, right? Until [00:25:00] you feel yourself drop out of the monkey mind and into your body. And then scan your body from like your toes. So if I told you right now, hope to put all your attention on, on the bottoms of your feet.

Suddenly you’re present, so there’s a sensation there, right? 

But if I didn’t tell you to put your attention there, you might not realize, yeah, oh, foot is cold, or yeah, foot feels nice and soft in this fluffy, you know, slipper. So that’s a way to start and then work up the body into like, the root and the stomach area and the lower back and start to just scan and get familiar with the whole, Any stuckness, any sensation that I’m feeling there.

And that’s a great, great practice to reconnect to your body, especially for those of you that I don’t feel anything or I’m [00:26:00] not safe in my body. I’ve clients that need to do that for a few weeks before they even ready. To tend to a weed in the garden right to feel an emotion as the level of sensation They just so used to going to their head and asking why why why? 

Hope: Rig

and that was kind of what I was going to ask you so for For those, because you’re, you’re talking about, you know, allowing yourself to feel these emotions and let the emotions, like, it’s okay to feel all the things, so do you have any, maybe strategy is the right word, any strategies for people who, because a lot of us are used to keeping it stuffed in, or, you know, you don’t want to feel certain things, and so you hold it in, and you have, like, you saying that these stuck emotions, so are there any, I mean, Obviously the tips you just gave, you know, the body scan and all of that.

Is there anything we can do to kind of get us into the practice of allowing ourselves to feel? Like things [00:27:00] to, like, to tell ourselves, hey, it’s okay to feel these things. 

Anat: Yeah, so like from there, there’s many, right? From, and I’m glad to give it all away. More than happy to. I want this out. There’s many ways.

One is starting to connect to your inner child, which is also known as your emotions, your emotions. I want you to imagine that who is feeling this emotion, who is sad or angry or anxious is like. You’re a little self. And so I want you to picture that you’re their mommy. Like, hope you have two kids. Well, no, you know, now you have a third and it’s your own inner child.

And so part of that helps and I tell people get a picture of yourself, you know, my screensaver is my baby picture. You know, me. So it reconnects you to your younger self that that is the part of you that that had those experiences a lot of times. And so to imagine holding yourself and evenly [00:28:00] caressing, do you know how many alpha men CEO types that have never cried?

I tell them, just imagine picking your little one up and give yourself a hug and just caress your arms up and down. They crack right open. Niagara Falls. You’d be amazed. It’s like, do we ever, are we ever that loving and kind with ourselves where we just pick ourselves up and say, it’s okay. I know. I know.

Yeah. And acceptance, you know, stage two is like acceptance and commitment and the willingness to accept. That a part of you does feel this way. A part of you, yes, had that experience. Part of you had that heartbreak. Yeah, mommy was not there for you. And so the willingness to just accept that that was your reality and then pick yourself [00:29:00] up and say, it’s okay, like you get to finally feel that I am here to hold you through that.

So that’s part of it. 

Hope: Yeah. I love that. That’s great. That’s great. So, are there, I guess, what would you say for someone who, maybe their, you know, maybe the emotional state that they’re, you know, stuck in or that loop that they’re stuck in and maybe it’s causing or leading to some sort of self sabotage, what would you say is the best starting point to get past that?

Anat: Great question. So if you’re aware that you’re in self sabotage and then like get a little more specific like, yeah, I always say that like I’m gonna work out and then I don’t do it. 

The question is, ask yourself is, Oh, it’s not who I am. What I learned. Who did I learn this from? 

Is this mom’s energy or dad’s energy?

And sometimes it’s not that we copy. [00:30:00] So I want to also say this. Sometimes we copy. We learn and we’ll copy. And sometimes we rebel. We say, I’m never going to be like that. And then we do the complete opposite, which is still not who you are. It’s another way to survive. What happened? So to explore, oh, yeah, mom.

Mom was like this. Mom was always sacrificing herself for others. Not thinking that she mattered. Yeah, that’s what I learned. And then taking yourself down memory lane. This is a lot of times what we guide people through and we have a guide in our program until they get the hang of it themselves. Rewind the movie, Hope.

Can you remember a time when you learned this from mom? No, I can’t remember a time. Okay, well, can you imagine? Because our, our body does [00:31:00] not know the difference between imagination and reality. That’s why we could watch a movie. Even though it’s made up and still cry or scream as if it’s real. Right. And so even if you can’t remember, because I know a lot of us black our childhood for whatever reason, imagine, can you imagine, can you picture your mom doing that thing and imagine what it was like for your little self or yourself, you know, see what you saw, hear what you heard, feel what you felt, And it reconnects you emotionally to that moment of, okay, observing mom, always frantic and busy.

Yeah. And then letting your little one, your inner child speak through you. Being curious. What was that like for you? Can you imagine it was like for you? I felt alone. I was scared. Where do you feel that in your body? So it’s this constant balance. of observing the sensations that arise [00:32:00] and, and what you witnessed and heard. 

Hope: Right.

Anat: There’s times in our life where, yeah, we think of a memory and we totally feel or something triggers, right? There’s the word triggers and experience that never got completed. This is an opportunity to complete open loops. Before the age of seven, logic wasn’t formed. 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: Logic part of the brain. So, you know, child doesn’t know right, wrong, doesn’t understand.

Oh, dad’s just at work. Now that dad doesn’t care about me, you don’t get it. They’re just like, dad’s not here. I’m alone. 

The world’s not there for me. And like, boom, that’s what happens. And so the opportunity now as adults is we get to be that observer. We get to bring the safety and the The full awareness and consciousness that we have to the [00:33:00] emotional child.

So the mindset is there, right? But not as a way to override because a lot of times what people do is they’ll say, Oh, well, yeah, I understand my dad meant well. And they’re just, that was me for years. Mindsetting, we’ve treated trimming the weed. And so this is like observing through like, Okay, I’m gonna hold this.

Space of knowing, but not as a way to discount and override the experience that I did have as a child. I’m going to give myself permission now to fully feel it. And the difference that that makes is the difference between feeling as indulging. Oh, whoa, poor me. We’re now you’re drowning in it. And feeling it as like, yep, that’s the experience and fully feel it.

And you know, it’s no longer your reality because people get stuck in the [00:34:00] loop where they’re operating as adults, as if what happened is still happening. And the fear of feeling that feeling is that it’s going to be overbearing. And you’re gonna be sucked into it like a pity party. Oh, whoa, poor me. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And the indulging. How you know you’re indulging is there’ll be a lot of like story attitude. You’ll just keep fueling the fire with all these reasons and evidence and this and that. And when someone has a weak mind, they do that. Right. But as and that’s why mindset is important and coming with consciousness, you know better.

And you still get to feel what’s there. 

Hope: Right. That’s great advice. I think that’s huge for I mean, I know for me personally, it’s just allowing yourself I do that sometimes like I don’t want to feel sad like I don’t want to feel sad about that I don’t want to think it’s sad. I love that in this work.

You’re giving yourself [00:35:00] permission To feel it and like work through the emotion rather than Like, yourself keep replaying it, like, that is what it is, this is the emotion, and like, working through the emotion. I think that’s, that’s huge. 

Anat: Yeah. That’s, cause, like I said, stage, stage one’s awareness, stage two is acceptance and commitment.

Hope: Mm hmm. 

Anat: So, the commitments may be there, which is why people are, you know, reading the book or the program or, or whatever, but accepting it. 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: Sometimes, that’s where people need. A coach. They need a facilitator. They need a guide. 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: Because There’s a part of them that’s like, you want me to accept this and there’s such an attachment to but he was a jerk or she was this like, and it doesn’t, or the idea of having to go there so scary, right?

So sometimes people need a lot more safety. And someone holding their hand through that. So you [00:36:00] get to stage three, which is the root of it, which is releasing. And the body releases in many ways. Crying is a very powerful form of release, which is why your children, your babies do it. If they didn’t cry.

They’d be, yeah, all that energy would be stuck. So crying is powerful. It should be rewarded. It should be celebrated. So that’s one way, but other ways that some people may not realize their body’s actually releasing is yawning. Yawning is a form of release, energy release. And yes, we yawn when we’re tired.

And why do you think that is? Because your body’s releasing energy. But I mean, yawning where I’ll be guiding a client through this and they will consistently yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn. And they have plenty of sleep. So yawning. So if you’re experiencing a lot of yawning as you’re doing it, your body’s releasing, [00:37:00] your nervous system is downregulating, right?

It’s coming out of that fight or flight of having to fight this thing. Burping. Burping is a form of release. Yes. And I’m, and it’s funny and it’s fun when you witness someone doing it and it’s just like they’re just consistently burping. Laughing. Now that’s a fun one. It’s contagious but there are people you’ll have laughing attacks, catharsis, screaming.

I mean if you’re harboring anger how else Does the energy of anger want to move if not, you know, physically punching something or having a good catharsis scream? Those of you that are harboring anger, which for me, I definitely did because I had it that like, anger is bad. It’s an emotion. Like, that was the bad emotion.

Crying is good. If you are going to scream, Don’t do it from your throat. Do [00:38:00] it from your root. So, imagine having to pull out a really deep weed, right? Or pick something up that’s really heavy. You’re using your whole body, right? You’re like, Ah! It takes everything. It’s the same thing. So, if you’re gonna do it, those of you listening, if you’re like, Oh, I got some anger in me.

I want to release this. I’m gonna do what she said. Yeah, stand up, soften your knees, like as if you’re preparing to pick something up that’s heavy and this is heavy, and then grab a pillow and just picture screaming from your root and it’s pulling it all the way out and up. And expect that a lot of times after something like that, that underneath it, there’s going to be some other emotion.

There’s going to be some, some crying or some burping. I’ve had clients that it’s literally because they’ve stuffed it down that once they finally pop the lid off, there’s so much. So much [00:39:00] air there. 

Hope: Mm hmm. 

Anat: And I mean two hours of burping. I had one client 24, I mean it was like a lot for the first hour and then she didn’t stop burping for 24 hours.

But this is how amazing our bodies are at healing. And for you to discover that you are the healer and you just need the right tools to work with. 

Hope: Right. 

Anat: I’m not here to heal people. I’m here to remind them and bring them back to knowing their brilliance to heal themselves. So let’s see. Tremoring is another one.

So how many times do you experience your body shaking and you think there’s something wrong. Oh my God, why am I shaking? Why am I shaking? 

I think it’s wrong. No, no, no, ladies and gentlemen, it’s good. It’s another form of your body releasing. Also having hot and cold flashes like, whew, I’m sweating. Good.

Your body is releasing it in that way. And the [00:40:00] sometimes, yeah, sometimes it’s just, it’s just the calmness. It’s just this easy peacefulness that comes over you. And then clarity arises. There’s like a reconnection to the heart and then you hear your heart’s wisdom come through and So this is stage four releasing and then replacing very important to replace because if you clear something out and There’s like beliefs tied to it right and you don’t replace it with something new You may default back.

And this is another place where I see people get stuck a lot of times. They’ll say, Oh, I’ve done inner child work. Da, da, da. I’m like, okay. So you, you, I’ve had the good scream. I’ve had the good cry. Great. What did you do afterwards? Was there now room for something new? Oh, yeah. Well, what was that declaration?

What is available now that wasn’t [00:41:00] before? So that’s the question that I always have my clients ask themselves or I ask them when they’ve had the release and I say, you know, is there room for something new? What’s possible and available now that wasn’t before? And sometimes what they say is related to the thing of like, oh, you know, like you have to keep busy.

Let’s say that’s the limiting belief, the weed they’re pulling out. And sometimes it’s something else, or it’s many things that flood in, like I accept myself, I love myself, I take time for me, I am enough, or I’m safe. Whatever it is, it’s gonna be good. And that’s the new seed that gets planted in the garden.

So that’s four. Now stage five is integration. If you plant a seed and then you leave it, what happens? Dies. You have to water that seed right away. And so the watering is how quickly can you [00:42:00] take action in alignment with a new belief. So it’s, It’s experienced as real. It’s not just a new thing you tell yourself.

So if it’s, you know, I matter, I put myself first, an action could be, alright, let me look at my schedule today. What can I take off my schedule? Or where can I schedule time for me? Or let me go hop on, you know, let me go for a run right now. Whatever it is, how quickly can you take action and then continue to take that action?

And then the last part is well, what if you don’t know what action to take because it’s so new like for me One of the things that took me really long to integrate in was being vulnerable Like I am vulnerable. I was like, okay, this is a word I get it And I have no framework for it. Like, I have no idea how a character in the movie of my life would play that out, what it would look like.

And so this is where [00:43:00] education comes in. You know, a lot of times I see people hop from stage one to stage five. They become aware of some way that they don’t want to be, and they go and they buy the book on that. Or, wait, I need to learn, my, my partner says like, I just want you to be vulnerable. It’s like, oh, I don’t know how to be vulnerable.

Okay, let me like, get a book on vulnerability. Great content in there. But if you didn’t make room for it, if you still have beliefs like people will hurt you, don’t open up, don’t trust others, then you can learn that all day long, but you’re going to sabotage it because there’s no room for it. But when you go through the steps and now you’re at stage five and you’re like, I am vulnerable, now you can go do that intimacy retreat or pick up that book.

And there’s room for it, because you’ve cleared out, you’ve dealt with that, those, uh, limiting beliefs. 

Hope: That makes sense. [00:44:00] I want to shift gears a little, just to kind of get your backstory, and just, how did you get into this work that you’re doing now? 

Anat: Yeah, so I, uh, I majored in finance, although I wanted to major in psychology, I just didn’t want the eight years of school, but there was always a part of me that was, that loved, like my girlfriends used to come to me in high school for, for advice.

God knows what I said to them. Back then, whatever I said created peace of mind. So there was this natural ability that I had with it. And so it found its way back to me, even though I went to school for business and finance and it started with my own journey, my own journey of wanting to heal certain things and spending eight years trying to find my own self and different modalities and different mentors.

What it did is it developed me as a coach, a lot of practice in that, but it didn’t give me my own [00:45:00] transformation. And I never gave up on it because giving up on it would mean giving up on myself. And it led me down the path of like leaving the cognitive world of learning and more into plant medicine and body mind psychology and somatic work and Finally experiencing transformation, which, by the way, is not a walk in the park on a beautiful sunny day.

It is a walk through a burning forest and there’s a dragon to slay. So if you’re experiencing a lot of pain and it’s hard and it’s scary, Oh, keep going. You’re where you need to be. It’s exactly how it, how it goes. And so there was always a desire to want to help others, but I was, I knew that until I got myself there, that it wouldn’t be an integrity and it wouldn’t be of service to me or others.

And so that was about seven [00:46:00] years ago. And it was at that point that I was like, okay, I’m good. And not like you ever really arrive, there’s still always, but I felt. That I, I gained the tools that can get to the root of it. And so it was just, I was ready. I was ready to step into what I always felt was my purpose.

And after years of failing in, you know, careers and businesses and all that, I knew that if this is where the universe wanted me to serve, That the people would come. 

Hope: Yeah. 

Anat: So I started out five and a half years ago with no marketing no website just word of mouth and I built a very successful business pretty fast.

People say, wow, that was fast. Like you did that so well. I’m like, oh no, no, this is 10 years in the making, what are you talking about? But it’s my happy place. I love it. I think it’s the most important work [00:47:00] that we could do to unlearn and move out of surviving a script, consistently replaying and having different people show up.

In the movie of your life, playing out the same roles and be able to know yourself as an editor and as a creator that can always have choice to recreate whatever reality you want. 

Hope: I love that. I love that so much. And I have one more question I want to ask you before I ask you that question. Where can people find you?

Anat: On the gram, on the Instagram is a great place where I am on and then if you’re looking to learn more about what we have, you can go to trainingcampforthesoul. com. 

Hope: Awesome. Perfect. Okay. So last question that I like to ask everyone, what do you think is the most important thing people can do to live with purpose?

Anat: Choose love over fear. Keep choosing love over any [00:48:00] fear that’s there. Put love in, in that you get to have what you want. You get to be on purpose and that the universe, God, whatever you want to call it, wants you to have that. Keep putting your faith in love over fear. 

Hope: I love it. Great words to end on.

Thank you so much. Anat for this, this was, I know this is going to be transformative for everybody who’s listening. So thank you so much for all of your insight and your wisdom and helping us to unlearn all of the things we need to. So thank you. 

Anat: Yeah. Thank you Hope for having me. Thank you listeners for tuning in.

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